{"id":8710,"date":"2024-07-11T07:06:07","date_gmt":"2024-07-11T13:06:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/?p=8710"},"modified":"2024-07-13T13:05:51","modified_gmt":"2024-07-13T19:05:51","slug":"here-there-be-dragons-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/2024\/07\/11\/here-there-be-dragons-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Here There Be Dragons"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I trust you all caught &#8220;The Red Dragon and the Gold,&#8221; the fourth episode of season 2 of H<em>OUSE OF THE DRAGON<\/em>.\u00a0\u00a0 A lot of you have been wanting for action, I know; this episode delivered it in spades with the Battle of Rook&#8217;s Rest, when dragon met dragon in the skies.<\/p>\n<p>Has there ever been a dragon battle to match it? \u00a0 I seem to recall that <em>REIGN OF FIRE<\/em> had a few scenes where a dozen dragons were wheeling through the skies. \u00a0 So, okay, maybe that was a <strong><em>bigger<\/em><\/strong> scene, with more dragons on screen&#8230; but a <em><strong>better<\/strong><\/em> battle?\u00a0\u00a0 I don&#8217;t think so.\u00a0\u00a0 Our guys knocked this one out of the castle.\u00a0\u00a0 I think they took it as a challenge.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And the dragons&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Dragons are mythical, of course.\u00a0\u00a0 In the real world, the one we live in as opposed to those we like to read about&#8230; dragons never existed&#8230; though similar creatures can be found in legends all around the world.\u00a0\u00a0 Some believe that maybe the stories were inspired by the discovery of dinosaur bones by farmers plowing their fields.\u00a0\u00a0 Regardless of where the stories originated, they have been a huge part of fantasy for centuries.\u00a0 And I&#8217;ve been fond of them for as long as I remember.<\/p>\n<p>Hell, I&#8217;m <i>named<\/i> after a dragonslayer &#8212; St. George, of course &#8212;\u00a0 and he&#8217;s still a saint, when a lot of other saints were thrown out a couple decades back&#8230; which I suppose means that dragons have papal approval.\u00a0\u00a0 I started writing my own dragon tales long before <em>A GAME OF THRONES.<\/em>\u00a0\u00a0 &#8220;The Ice Dragon&#8221; and\u00a0 &#8220;The Way of Cross and Dragon&#8221; were two of my best.<\/p>\n<p>Every culture has its own version of dragons; Chinese dragons are wingless and do not breathe fire.\u00a0\u00a0 They bring good luck.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Traditional western dragons bring mostly fire and death&#8230; but modern fantasists have played with that a lot too.\u00a0\u00a0 The dragons of<em> ERAGON<\/em> and <em>HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON<\/em> are very different from mine own.\u00a0\u00a0 (Toothless is even cute).<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-8916\" src=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/toothless.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/toothless.jpg 225w, https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/toothless-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Tolkien&#8217;s dragons were always evil, servants of Morgoth and Sauron.\u00a0\u00a0 They were akin to his orcs and trolls.\u00a0\u00a0 JRRT did not do friendly dragons.\u00a0\u00a0 His dragons were intelligent, though.\u00a0\u00a0 Smaug <em>talks<\/em>.\u00a0\u00a0 He also has a huge horde of gold, a very traditional dragon trait&#8230; and he sleeps on his treasure, for months and years at a time.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-8917\" src=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/smaug_dragon-1.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"1023\" height=\"538\" srcset=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/smaug_dragon-1.webp 1023w, https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/smaug_dragon-1-300x158.webp 300w, https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/smaug_dragon-1-768x404.webp 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1023px) 100vw, 1023px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Before Peter Jackson&#8217;s Smaug, the best dragon ever seen on film was Vermithrax Pejorative in <em>DRAGONSLAYER<\/em><b><i>.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/i><\/b> Two legs and two wings, dangerous, fire-breathing, a flyer, does not talk, does not horde gold.\u00a0\u00a0 An inspiration for all dragonlovers.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-8786\" src=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/verm1-1024x691.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"648\" srcset=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/verm1-1024x691.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/verm1-300x202.jpg 300w, https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/verm1-768x518.jpg 768w, https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/verm1.jpg 1199w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>At the other end of the scale is the dragon in <b><i>DRAGONHEART<\/i><\/b> (voice by Sean Connery).\u00a0\u00a0 Fat, four-legged, talking, a good guy who befriends the hero.\u00a0\u00a0 A much inferior dragon in a much inferior film.\u00a0 Bah.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-8918\" src=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Dragonheart-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"259\" height=\"194\" srcset=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Dragonheart-1.jpg 259w, https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Dragonheart-1-166x124.jpg 166w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 259px) 100vw, 259px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In <em>A SONG OF ICE &amp; FIRE,<\/em> I set out to blend the wonder of epic fantasy with the grittiness of the best historical fiction.\u00a0\u00a0 There is magic in my world, yes&#8230; but much less of it than one gets in most fantasy.\u00a0\u00a0 (Tolkien&#8217;s Middle Earth was relatively low magic too, and I took my cue from the master).\u00a0\u00a0 I wanted Westeros to feel <em>real<\/em>, to evoke the Crusades and the Hundred Years War and the Wars of the Roses as much as it did JRRT with his hobbits and magic rings.<\/p>\n<p>I would have dragons, yes&#8230; in part because of my dear friend, the late Phyllis Eisenstein, a marvelous fantasist and science fiction writer in her own right, now sadly missed&#8230;\u00a0 but I wanted my dragons to be as real and believable as such a creature could ever be.\u00a0\u00a0 I designed my dragons with a lot of care.\u00a0\u00a0 They fly and breathe fire, yes, those traits seemed essential to me.\u00a0 They have<strong><em> two<\/em><\/strong> legs (not four, never four) and two wings.<br \/>\n<em>LARGE<\/em> wings.\u00a0\u00a0 A lot of fantasy dragons have these itty bitty wings that would never get such a creature off the ground.\u00a0\u00a0 <strong>And only two legs; the wings are the forelegs.\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong> Four-legged dragons exist only in heraldry.\u00a0\u00a0 No animal that has ever lived on Earth has six limbs.\u00a0\u00a0 Birds have two legs and two wings, bats the same, ditto pteranodons and other flying dinosaurs, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Much\u00a0 of the confusion about the proper\u00a0 number of legs on a dragon has its roots in medieval heraldry.\u00a0 In the beginning both versions could be seen on shields and banners, but over the centuries, as heraldry became more standardized, the heralds took to calling the four-legged beasties <strong><em>dragon<\/em><\/strong>s and their two-legged kin <strong><em>wyverns<\/em><\/strong>.\u00a0\u00a0 No one had ever\u00a0<em> seen<\/em> a dragon or a wyvern, of course; neither creature actually existed save in legend, so there was a certain arbitrary quality to this distinction&#8230; and medieval heralds were not exactly renowned for their grasp of zoology, even for real world animals.\u00a0 Just take a look at what they thought a seahorse looked like.<\/p>\n<p>Dragons <em><strong>DO<\/strong><\/em> exist in the world of Westeros, however (wyverns too, down in Sothoryos), so my own heralds did not have that excuse.\u00a0\u00a0 Ergo, in my books, the Targaryen sigil has two legs, as it should.\u00a0 Why would any Westerosi ever put four legs on a dragon, when they could look at the real thing and could their limbs?\u00a0\u00a0 My wyverns have two legs as well; they differ from the dragons of my world chiefly in size, coloration, and the inability to breath fire.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (It should be stressed that while the Targaryen sigil has the proper number of legs (two), it is not exactly anatomically correct.\u00a0\u00a0 The wings are way too small compared to the body, and of course no dragon has three heads.\u00a0\u00a0 That bit is purely symbolic, meant to reflect Aegon the Conqueror and his two sisters).<\/p>\n<p>FWIW, the shows got it half right (both of them).\u00a0\u00a0 GAME OF THRONES gave us the correct two-legged sigils for the first four seasons and most of the fifth, but when Dany&#8217;s fleet hove into view, all the sails showed four-legged dragons.\u00a0\u00a0 Someone got sloppy, I guess.\u00a0\u00a0 Or someone opened a book on heraldry, and read just enough of it to muck it all up.\u00a0\u00a0 A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.\u00a0\u00a0 A couple years on, HOUSE OF THE DRAGON decided the heraldry should be consistent with GAME OF THRONES.. but they went with the bad sigil rather than the good one.\u00a0\u00a0 That sound you heard was me screaming, &#8220;no, no, no.&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0 Those damned extra legs have even wormed their way onto the covers of my books, over my strenuous objections.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RIGHT<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-8735\" src=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/T-2-sigil.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"235\" height=\"259\" srcset=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/T-2-sigil.png 600w, https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/T-2-sigil-273x300.png 273w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 235px) 100vw, 235px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>WRONG<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-8736\" src=\"https:\/\/georgerrmartin.com\/notablog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/T-4-sigil.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"215\" height=\"234\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Valyrian dragons differ in other ways from the likes of Smaug and Toothless and Vermithrax as well.<\/p>\n<p>My dragons do not talk.\u00a0\u00a0 They are relatively intelligent, but they are still beasts.<\/p>\n<p>They bond with men&#8230; some men&#8230; and the why and how of that, and how it came to be, will eventually be revealed in more detail in <em>THE WINDS OF WINTER<\/em> and <em>A DREAM OF SPRING<\/em> and some in <em>BLOOD &amp; FIRE<\/em>.\u00a0 (Septon Barth got much of it right).\u00a0\u00a0 Like wolves and bears and lions, dragons can be trained, but never entirely tamed.\u00a0\u00a0 They will always be dangerous.\u00a0\u00a0 Some are wilder and more wilful than others.\u00a0 They are individuals, they have personalities&#8230; and they often reflect the personalities of their riders, thanks to bond they share are. \u00a0\u00a0 They do not care a whit about gold or gems, no more than a tiger would.\u00a0\u00a0 Unless maybe their rider was obsessed with the shiny stuff, and even then&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Dragons need food.\u00a0\u00a0 They need water too, but they have no gills.\u00a0 They need to breathe .\u00a0 Some say that\u00a0 Smaug slept for sixty years below the Lonely Mountains before Bilbo and the dwarves woke him up.\u00a0\u00a0 The dragons born of Valyria cannot do that.\u00a0\u00a0 They are creatures of fire, and fire needs oxygen.\u00a0\u00a0 A dragon could dip into the ocean to scoop up a fish, perhaps, but they&#8217;d fly right up again.\u00a0 If held underwater too long, they would drown, just like any other land animal.<\/p>\n<p>My dragons are predators, carnivores who like their meat will done.\u00a0\u00a0 They can and will hunt their own prey, but they are also territorial.\u00a0\u00a0 They have lairs.\u00a0\u00a0 As creatures of the sky, they like mountain tops, and volcanic mountains best of all.\u00a0 These are creatures of fire, and the cold dank caverns that other fantasists house their pets in are not for mine. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Man-made dwellings, like the stables of Dragonstone, the\u00a0 towers tops of the Valryian Freehold, and the Dragonpit of King&#8217;s Landing, are acceptable &#8212; and often come with men bringing them food.\u00a0 If those are not available, young dragons will find their own lairs&#8230; and defend them fiercely.<\/p>\n<p>My dragons are creatures of the sky.\u00a0\u00a0 They fly, and can cross mountains and plains, cover hundreds of miles&#8230; but they don&#8217;t, unless their riders take them there.\u00a0\u00a0 They are\u00a0 not nomadic.\u00a0 During the heyday of Valyria there were forty dragon-riding families with hundreds of dragons amongst them&#8230; but (aside from our Targaryens) all of them stayed close to the Freehold and the Lands of the Long Summer.\u00a0 From time to time a dragonrider might visit Volantis or another Valyrian colony, even settle there for a few years, but never permanently.\u00a0 Think about it. \u00a0 If dragons were nomadic, they would have overrun half of Essos, and the Doom would only have killed a few of them. \u00a0 Similarly, the dragons of Westeros seldom wander far from Dragonstone. \u00a0 Elsewise, after three hundred years, we would have dragons all over the realm and every noble house would have a few. \u00a0 The three wild dragons mentioned in <b><i>Fire &amp; Blood<\/i><\/b> have lairs on Dragonstone.\u00a0\u00a0 The rest can be found in the Dragonpit of King&#8217;s Landing, or in deep caverns under the Dragonmont.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Luke flies Arrax to Storm&#8217;s End and Jace to Winterfell, yes, but the dragons would not have flown there on their own, save under very special circumstances.\u00a0\u00a0 You won&#8217;t find dragons hunting the riverlands or the Reach or the Vale, or roaming the northlands or the mountains of Dorne.<\/p>\n<p>Fantasy needs to be grounded.\u00a0\u00a0 It is not simply a license to do anything you like.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Smaug and Toothless may both be dragons, but they should never be confused.\u00a0\u00a0 Ignore canon, and the world you&#8217;ve created comes apart like tissue paper.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I trust you all caught &#8220;The Red Dragon and the Gold,&#8221; the fourth episode of season 2 of HOUSE OF THE DRAGON.\u00a0\u00a0 A lot of you have been wanting for action, I know; 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